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Title: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 13, 2019, 01:26:07 PM
I challenge @rjbprime to a duel, as the challenged, you decide the terms of the duel as long as they are in reason.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 14, 2019, 04:10:30 AM
I'm currently on the road, til late Friday night, early Saturday morning. I do accept, but I'll have to have a couple of days to sort a proper response out.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 20, 2019, 08:22:27 PM
Adventure League Season 8 rules with the following changes: level 20, standard point buy, feats allowed, free choice of non-flying race, gold appropriate for 20th level AL Character.

Best of three combat rounds.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 01:01:22 AM
These seem fair, do we regain expended items such as potions at the begining of each match or are they still one time uses? Also it will take me a bit of time to make my character since this week is just being shoved full of time consuming things I must do.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 01:35:38 AM
I was actually thinking of a three turn melee battle, hence the no flying thing. Sorta like in SAO when Kirito fought Kuradeel in a First Strike duel. Does that seem like a fair revision?

But a best of three combats seems fair. To the death, first strike or Half Health? If its First Strike or Half Health, then I can possibly spin this off into a campaign, mayhaps?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 02:13:08 AM
I never even. Thought of first striking for some reason, though doesn't that just mean whoever has the highest initiative wins (as a lvl 20 our to hits are so high that you need to really work to make your ac anything more than a minor inconvenience.) Something I thought of is how about we do 3 different rounds, one being first strike ,the other being half and the other being whole. (if the arena can afford to entice 2 lvl 20s to fight and doesn't have someone who can at least cast revivify or spare the dying on standby then I am going to have a word for their management.)
Also do you want to ban flying in general or just flying races as the AL rules already ban them but obtaining the ability to fly with a level 20 is not super difficult so the clarification is necessary.
Also I'm not sure where you are going with the campaign idea but I like the sound of it.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 02:17:01 AM
Ban flying in general.

With regards to the campaign, have these guys be an exhibition match at gladiatorial arena, then when we finish, cut to the newbs. So whoever survives, can be a mentor or some such. Thoughts?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 02:35:28 AM
I think regardless the results of the duel, each contest would survive since we're talking level 20s and neither they nor the arena itself would be willing to sacrifice such great sources of entertainment and at their level if the arena does not provide then they probably have arranged their resurrection by some means either a healer on standby or a clone spell prepared before hand.
The whole idea of noobs having to start out in that same arena sounds cool tho.
Finally do you agree to the, first strike, half health, and full health format?
Also the ban on flying is fine as it can be annoying to deal with.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 02:40:11 AM
I do agree to the first strike, half health, and full health format. And yeah, flying is a pain.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 02:48:28 AM
So let me ask now. The first strike format I'd basically whoever gets the first hit in wins? Right also afterward is it assumed that we are magically healed back to full?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 02:50:01 AM
Yep, correct on both accounts.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 03:03:57 AM
Another question, how much prep time do our characters get, do we have zero time so that we can only cast things like mage armor on our turn or do we have a couple minute or even hours?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 03:14:46 AM
Minute, same as the duelling settings in SAO.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 03:15:26 AM
But nothing targeting the opponent before combat.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 03:16:51 AM
I'm cool with that.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 03:28:25 AM
Btw as the AL does not list the dungeons master guide, are we still allowed to use it as a source for our magic item, and is there any other sources for that magic item that you want to allow?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 04:22:10 AM
I believe this (http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/news/changes-dd-adventurers-league-rewards) Adventurers League webpage on the WotC D&D site describes the current details, ignore the Eberron AL Guides for now. The AL FAQ v8.2 has list of currently available magic items, on page 8, and pages 3 - 4 of the AL Players Guide v8.2 has the rewards and treasures costs. ALPG v8.2 says the costs of items is related to the table they are found on in the DMG.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 05:06:26 AM
On a related note, I've asked my local uni AL Organiser, if they could explain the gear, rewards, treasure, and magic item rules in layman's terms, and how those rules could be apply to us.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 08:18:12 AM
My local AL Guide has suggested to limit the treasure for these two characters to the following:

At lvl 20, for a high magic campaign, you get 20,000 GP, 2 Uncommon Magic Items, 2 Rare Magic Items, and 2 Very Rare Magic Items, as well as starting equipment.

They said that they think those options seem a little more balanced than AL, for treasure.

Other than that, would you be amenable to a revised Character build options?

20th Level, PHB+1 for everything except race, any non-flying race from hardcover sources, no flight options, gear as written at the begining of this post, and the duel format being first strike, half health, and full health format?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 22, 2019, 08:33:01 AM
So if I get this straight then the major thing the race revision allows us is to take something like zanthers (is elemental evil still an option?) Subclasses and spells while taking a race from volos? Also I like the changed starting treasure works, are we only taking dungeon master guide magic items or are there other options you want to use?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 22, 2019, 11:43:35 PM
EEPC is an option, and the magic item choice is from DMG, Zanathars, or Eberron.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 24, 2019, 08:25:46 PM
Another question, what is the arena going to look like and how for do you want to start away?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 25, 2019, 08:12:36 AM
Not sure on the arena looks, maybe @Otter could suggest one, or know someone who could source one that's impartial?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Otter on March 25, 2019, 08:29:50 AM
Check this out. It's free under the creative commons license:  https://2minutetabletop.com/greybanner-arena-battle-map/

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Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on March 27, 2019, 08:26:44 AM
Cheers @Otter, I've just now downloaded that one. Who would we see about rulings for the arena? Such as traps and similar? Or should either @Acetwinelf or I tag someone? Or forego such things, which would, to me, make things interesting?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Otter on March 27, 2019, 08:35:46 AM
It's totally up to you guys.  Just make sure it's agreed upon before you start. If you want to make things interesting, you could request another member make an arena with traps in it. You'd probablyvhave to do pms for perception checks and stuff.

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Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on March 27, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
I am not against the idea of the arena having traps and other things in it (haha you thought that was a rock, little did you know it was a roper!) however im also very lazy so if you @rjbprime will recruit someone to do that then im all fine for it happening.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on April 02, 2019, 07:51:29 AM
Cool. Have you got a character ready? I'd like to ask @BlazingFox to handle arena traps and such.

And regarding that campaign stemming from this, I'll be putting up a LFP shortly.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on April 02, 2019, 11:57:32 AM
I have a bit more work to go on my character and it will take a little time to finish it, school hasnt been giving me as much free time as I would wish. I will probably have it done in a couple days.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on April 03, 2019, 09:31:08 PM
Fair enough.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on April 10, 2019, 06:34:26 AM
Any updates?
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on April 13, 2019, 04:49:46 PM
Im sorry for being so slow I haven't been able to prioritize this lately as school work has dramatically risen and swamped me so im sorry to say I probably won't be able to do this for a bit until school either let's out or let's me catch a break.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on April 13, 2019, 06:33:13 PM
All good. Let me know when you're able.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on April 18, 2019, 10:56:00 AM
Got a question for you, are we allowing the manuals and tomes from the DMG,specifically the ones that can give a +2 (can go above 20) to a stat after a period of reading and cannot then be used for 100 years. Im cool for allowing them but among things that normally have to be individually adressed for balancing issues, they are one of the biggest things.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on April 18, 2019, 08:09:19 PM
They count as your limited magic items, if you use them.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on May 28, 2019, 05:51:08 AM
Any updates on your challenge?  ;)
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: Acetwinelf on May 28, 2019, 07:52:18 AM
Gonna be totally honest, kinda forgot about this, on the bright side I'm nearly done with the character so if you will indulge me a little longer I should be ready.
Title: Re: I demand battle!
Post by: rjbprime on May 28, 2019, 08:12:12 AM
Cool, I'll finish mine off as well.