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Title: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 21, 2019, 01:50:56 PM
@thatchickenguy
I feel like we went in different directions... and I am loving it!
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 21, 2019, 01:54:14 PM
Absolutely! This should be interesting. Good luck! I'll need it...
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 21, 2019, 02:14:21 PM
I swear spell components are the oddest things. A tiny tart and a feather??
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 21, 2019, 02:18:57 PM
They're usually jokes or references. I assume the feather is to tickle a person and make them laugh, and the 2nd definition for Tart is "marked by a biting, acrimonious, or cutting quality"
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 21, 2019, 02:20:32 PM
Huh. I figured as much with the feather, but I didn't think about that for the tart!
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 21, 2019, 02:23:18 PM
Holy crap you've got a good Wis save! Nicely done!
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 21, 2019, 02:54:54 PM
All my saves are OK, but Wis is my 2nd highest.

I really wanted to build the ultimate level 10 killing machine, ready for whatever came his way, since I had no idea who I was going up against.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 21, 2019, 02:59:26 PM
I am really curious what I am up against though, I honestly haven't got a clue. Not knowing your saves, AC, or even class puts me on edge, even if you are essentially the Burger King subservient chicken (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0KjqQZquys)...
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 21, 2019, 03:10:49 PM
OMG WTF is that thing? That's creepy. And yeah - it is odd not knowing your rival's stats - although it won't take you long to figure it out. :P

You're probably more optimized than I am; I'm much better at creating unique characters than I am at building them for combat.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 21, 2019, 03:12:32 PM
Well this guy is SLIGHTLY less optimized than I thought due to picking one wrong piece of equipment. I was going to ask to change it, but I can live with the limitation.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 21, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
Actually I have to either ask your permission to switch to crappier armor, or walk back that turn, as I don't have the Str to wear heavy armor without a 10 foot movement penalty. I'll let you decide what is most advantageous to you.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 21, 2019, 03:28:38 PM
As I'm kind of either/or seeing benefits on either side. Lets let the dice decide, Shall we?

1-10 - Change armor
11-20 - walk back a turn

Rolled 1d20 : 5, total 5
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 21, 2019, 03:30:02 PM
Stepping down to half-plate then. You haven't tried an attack vs AC yet, so I won't reveal where that puts me.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 22, 2019, 11:47:03 AM
:(
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 22, 2019, 11:47:40 AM
+0 Wis save? That's not gonna be good.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 22, 2019, 11:52:12 AM
So I am not 100% sure whether you can take any actions. I think not.

The description for Command says:

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You speak a one-word command to a creature you can see within range. The target must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or follow the command on its next turn. The spell has no effect if the target is undead, if it doesn't understand your language, or if your command is directly harmful to it.

Some typical commands and their effects follow. You might issue a command other than one described here. If you do so, the GM determines how the target behaves. If the target can't follow your command, the spell ends.

Approach.
The target moves toward you by the shortest and most direct route, ending its turn if it moves within 5 feet of you.
...

I would assume the Return command would be the same as Approach, which specifies ending your turn if you move within 5 feet of me. Is that how you read it?
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 22, 2019, 12:10:16 PM
I know right? None of my saves are awesome honestly.

And yes - I absolutely agree that's how it should act, based on 'approach'.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 22, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
I shored up my Wis save, assuming I'd be dealing with either that or dex saves.

Paladin's have awesome saves at this level.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 22, 2019, 01:37:23 PM
Urf. With your extra damage from Hexblade Curse, you might finish me off without me ever laying a finger on you!
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 22, 2019, 02:34:44 PM
You're paralyzed. That means my hits are automatic crits. I expect that's it. Bard was definitely going to be all or nothing. Either I fail a save,  so you can lock me down and pick away at me OR I was going to be able to shrug off everything.

5e doesn't really balance classes to fight each other. Classes are designed, mostly, to do a maximum amount of damage to enemies who are either swarms or big bags of hitpoints. Players do far too much damage, compared to their HP, so it will probably be a coin flip blowout.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 22, 2019, 02:49:51 PM
If you survived, go ahead and make your save. I won't tack a smite onto that.

Here's my character sheet.
https://ddb.ac/characters/10189252/Qb5ZWn
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 27, 2019, 02:34:55 PM
Sorry, took me a little longer to get back to this than I intended! That didn't drop me, but it came close enough that you'll drop me next round. I didn't even lay a hand on you; I was relying too much on getting a spell or two off, and your saves were too much. Congrats!

ddb.ac/characters/8614070/lPRUAx

Arcane Trickster Rogue, BTW. 
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 27, 2019, 02:50:29 PM
All good, no big deal waiting.

Arcane Trickster! I was wondering why your spell DC was so low! That makes sense. I was basically built to avid failing a wis save. You know what they say, you fail a dex save and take damage, you fail a con save and you die, you fail a wis save and your friends die!

What source did you use, just the PHB? I don't remember if Arcane Trickster can use booming blade or not, but if so that would allow your extra mobility to kite around while I take damage. Really I think to be safe you'd need to get a DoT on me, and then stay more than 60 feet away so I couldn't catch you. Expeditious Retreat nearly worked, if I had been slowed that first round I would never be able to catch you. 

But overall, you had a good build but a tough matchup vs my saves.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: thatchickenguy on March 27, 2019, 03:12:29 PM
I used PHB and VGTM. Honestly, I would've done much better keeping my distance and kiting you - I even took Magic Initiate:Warlock and grabbed Eldritch Blast. I could've tried keeping concentration on Exp. Retreat and ran around blasting my heart out!
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 27, 2019, 04:47:25 PM
Yeah, I think the only thing I could do then is hold action to eldritch blast when you enter range.
Title: Re: Daemon Vandran vs Kachi Kachi
Post by: SchrodingersNinja on March 28, 2019, 01:41:10 PM
You want to go again? Best 2 out of 3? New characters? You can decide the stipulations since I won last round.